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Post  Wojtek on Sun May 15, 2016 3:42 pm

I love Sergey's reaction when Ukraine won! He lost with grace, full respect   -hy6- The real winner! king


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Post  Wojtek on Sun May 15, 2016 3:48 pm

kleftokotou wrote:
1)For the second year in a row the audiance winner didn't get the award

It's absolutely stupid that "professional" jury with 5 persons per country is changing Europe's choice! I was blind that I couldn't see this before!

For me the professional jury should be out and Australia should be out! This is Eurovision, not Worldvision! If they can't be the host then they have nothing to do in Eurovision! Evil or Very Mad

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Post  Wojtek on Sun May 15, 2016 4:00 pm

kleftokotou wrote:
2)The  lights and camera work for Armenia looked awful during the final unlike the semi.

That's right! I didn't like it yesterday so much as on tuesday!

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Post  Wojtek on Sun May 15, 2016 4:02 pm

I have no idea how Ukraine will host ESC next year, they don't have money at all!

This is how Russian people can see ESC next year

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Post  kleftokotou on Sun May 15, 2016 6:34 pm

And it's not just about the money! Ukraine these days is nothing like 2005!! I don't know how the ΕSC community will be accepted there!
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Post  kleftokotou on Sun May 15, 2016 6:37 pm

As the composer and producer of Russian entry I fully respect the result. I knew the rules and I accepted them. As a fan of this contest I am sad that a song, an entry and an artist like Sergey Lazarev @lazarevsergey was given zero points from 21 juries! When at the same time, the audience all over Europe voted for him with 3 points and above. 29 countries gave him 8, 10 and 12 points!! I really believe that EBU should reconsider the way juries are voting. Maybe take them down to 25%? Something needs to be done for Russia to take part again. This is my opinion

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Post  kleftokotou on Sun May 15, 2016 6:48 pm

Televoting results....
In the Russian televoting Ukraine got 10 points
In the Ukranian televoting Russia got 12 points

People care about the music and not about politics!
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Post  darkvindak on Sun May 15, 2016 7:03 pm

The winning song is pure shit, to be honest, but that is nothing new, since almost always some shitty song win, sorry for my language but that words are best to describe what I think  Sad
Belgium song was nice, Montenegrin, Georgian and Serbian was good in Serbian version, English version is blah
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Post  darkvindak on Sun May 15, 2016 7:16 pm

Wojtek wrote:
kleftokotou wrote:
1)For the second year in a row the audiance winner didn't get the award

It's absolutely stupid that "professional" jury with 5 persons per country is changing Europe's choice! I was blind that I couldn't see this before!

For me the professional jury should be out and Australia should be out! This is Eurovision, not Worldvision! If they can't be the host then they have nothing to do in Eurovision! Evil or Very Mad

agree
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Post  kleftokotou on Sun May 15, 2016 7:57 pm


This man is the leader of the people Jamala's song talks about, Refat Chubarov!
This is not an old pic, this was taken in 27/2/2014. Shocked
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Post  kleftokotou on Sun May 15, 2016 8:48 pm


Justin Timberlake to Iveta Mukuchyan. "You were amazing!" (Video)

http://en.aravot.am/2016/05/15/176772/

For me Iveta's performance at the semi was the greatest this year! She had it all!
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Post  Wojtek on Sun May 15, 2016 11:49 pm

Comparing to Miss Universe pageant -hbbv-


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Post  Wojtek on Mon May 16, 2016 12:24 am

kleftokotou wrote:Televoting results....
In the Russian televoting Ukraine got 10 points
In the Ukranian televoting Russia got 12 points

People care about the music and not about politics!

The "professional" jury
Ukraine - 24th place by Russian jury
Russia - 22nd place by Ukrainian jury

Evil or Very Mad

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Post  Lucky on Mon May 16, 2016 7:09 am

Who said this is an unpolitical contest.....  Laughing


Personally I hope we will not compete anymore. The contest has ho support here in Czech Republic, we don´t care. 
Gabriela is beautiful and very talented, I hope the participation can help her for her next professional career. That´s all Smile
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Post  bestman on Mon May 16, 2016 7:26 am

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Wojtek wrote:
kleftokotou wrote:
1)For the second year in a row the audiance winner didn't get the award

It's absolutely stupid that "professional" jury with 5 persons per country is changing Europe's choice! I was blind that I couldn't see this before!

For me the professional jury should be out and Australia should be out! This is Eurovision, not Worldvision! If they can't be the host then they have nothing to do in Eurovision! Evil or Very Mad

Televotes from Norway:


Lithuania 12 points
Poland 10 points


Do you really think this reflects true music taste of Norwegians? I think the result from my country shows that Norwegians did not care much to vote since we were not in the final, while our large communities of foreign workers voted for their own country again and again and again...

So it will not be completely fair without the juries either.


That said, Poland and Lithuania were good songs. 
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Post  kleftokotou on Mon May 16, 2016 8:49 am

bestman wrote:...
Do you really think this reflects true music taste of Norwegians? I think the result from my country shows that Norwegians did not care much to vote since we were not in the final, while our large communities of foreign workers voted for their own country again and again and again....
No, that could not be possible! The televoting shows the taste of those who watch the show and care enough to spend their money to vote!

I don't understand why the foreign workers' votes are demonized, every one has the right to vote no matter where his is at the moment, no matter where he comes from! Most of them don't vote if they don't like the song, we see it every year!!


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Post  kleftokotou on Mon May 16, 2016 8:53 am

Danish jury member gave wrong points
The Danish jury member Hilda Heick gave the opposite points that she intended to. Denmark gave 12 points to Ukraine on a mistake. Ukraine should have had zero points from Denmark


15 May 2016, 13:55 CET





The Danish jury member Hilda Heick (Who also co-hosted the Danish Melodi Grand Prix 2016), misunderstood how the jury should rank their songs, and did the complete opposite.

In the Grand Final Hilda's favorite song was Australia, but she ended up in ranking Australia worst.

The jury-members must rank the 26 songs from 1 to 26, with 1 to their best song, and 26 to the worst song. Hilda did the complete opposite.

In the show, Denmark's jury awarded Ukraine with 12 points, but it should have been Australia instead. In fact Ukraine shouldn't have any points from the Danish jury.

This means that the difference between number one (Ukraine) and number two (Australia) should have been only nine points!

It is my mistake

Hilda Heick is so affected by the incident that she considers dropping everything Eurovision-related tasks in the future:

– It is my great mistake and I admit it honestly, but i want to emphasize that I am not senile yet, although several write on Facebook that I should retire and keep me away from everything, and that I don't know anything!, says Hilda Heick to bt.dk.

The jurors were briefed before the second semi-final and the Grand Final.

– An independent auditor from Deloitte has briefed the Danish jury members for half an hour about how they should do. He has been responsible for this briefing the past decade. But in this situation it does not matter, because it didn't influence the final result according to our calculations, says the Head of entertainment at DR (Denmark's Radio) Jan Lagermand Lundme.

Related story:
Old voting system: Australia would have won Eurovision 2016

Points: With and without Hilda's mistake

We have calculated the Grand Final points without Hilda's mistake, and it doesn't change anything to the final positions in the table, but it changes the points.


with mistake
without mistake
1 Ukraine 534 522
2 Australia 511 513



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Post  kleftokotou on Mon May 16, 2016 8:57 am

Could this be true? Or EBU tries to find a way out from this mess!! --100t3--
Let's face it, in a place where Islam meets Fashism how can there be a safe ESC for everyone!
In case the winner can't organise the second country can host! In this case is Australia so.... -confused-
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Post  Esther on Mon May 16, 2016 8:06 pm

kleftokotou wrote:Could this be true? Or EBU tries to find a way out from this mess!! --100t3--
Let's face it, in a place where Islam meets Fashism how can there be a safe ESC for everyone!
In case the winner can't organise the second country can host! In this case is Australia so.... -confused-

Ukraine has no money to host the Eurovision? I think that Europe and the United States are obliged to help Ukraine with money, because the European Union and the United States are responsible for the political mess in Ukraine, actually supported the the coup d'état in Kiev, which led to a civil war, to mass impoverishment of the people.....
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Post  kleftokotou on Mon May 16, 2016 8:51 pm

Esther wrote:.......
[b]Ukraine has no money to host the Eurovision? I think that Europe and the United States are obliged to help Ukraine with money, because the European Union and the United States are responsible for the political mess in Ukraine....
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Post  Wojtek on Mon May 16, 2016 10:16 pm

Lucky wrote:Who said this is an unpolitical contest.....  Laughing


Personally I hope we will not compete anymore. The contest has ho support here in Czech Republic, we don´t care. 
Gabriela is beautiful and very talented, I hope the participation can help her for her next professional career. That´s all Smile

I hope that CR will stay! You made it to the final, that's a big success Smile All participating countries from the Visegrad Group did, so there is a hope for us Smile

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Post  Wojtek on Mon May 16, 2016 10:57 pm

kleftokotou wrote:
bestman wrote:...
Do you really think this reflects true music taste of Norwegians? I think the result from my country shows that Norwegians did not care much to vote since we were not in the final, while our large communities of foreign workers voted for their own country again and again and again....
No, that could not be possible! The televoting shows the taste of those who watch the show and care enough to spend their money to vote!

I don't understand why the foreign workers' votes are demonized, every one has the right to vote no matter where his is at the moment, no matter where he comes from! Most of them don't vote if they don't like the song, we see it every year!!


I had the same statement as bestman before last saturday, but now I can see how awful was juries job!

Many says that Poland was 3rd in televoting because of our diaspora. Yes, it is our power but in countries like Albania, Azerbaijan, Croatia or Cyprus? I don't think there are many of Poles there.


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Post  Wojtek on Mon May 16, 2016 11:05 pm

5 millions of polish ppl were watching Eurovision on TVP this year! That's a huge result!

I'm so happy to see how much Eurovision is getting popular here, few years ago we didn't care about ESC just like Czech Rep Smile

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Post  NiKa on Mon May 16, 2016 11:50 pm

Wojtek wrote:
kleftokotou wrote:
bestman wrote:...
Do you really think this reflects true music taste of Norwegians? I think the result from my country shows that Norwegians did not care much to vote since we were not in the final, while our large communities of foreign workers voted for their own country again and again and again....
No, that could not be possible! The televoting shows the taste of those who watch the show and care enough to spend their money to vote!

I don't understand why the foreign workers' votes are demonized, every one has the right to vote no matter where his is at the moment, no matter where he comes from! Most of them don't vote if they don't like the song, we see it every year!!


I had the same statement as bestman before last saturday, but now I can see how awful was juries job!

Many says that Poland was 3rd in televoting because of our diaspora. Yes, it is our power but in countries like Albania, Azerbaijan, Croatia or Cyprus? I don't think there are many of Poles there.


Exactly  -5t3f43-  Or Austria, where we got 12 points Wink  Maybe because of the resemblance of Michał's song and voice to Conchita Laughing

Points for Poland from televoting:
12:Austria, Belgium (2x)
10: Germany, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Norway, Sweden, The Netherlands, Great Britain (8x)
8: Hungary, Ukraine (2x)
7: Czech Republic, France, San_Marino (3x)
6: Belarus, Bulgaria, Lithuania (3x)
5: Albania, Denmark, Finland, Latvia, Russia, Spain, Switzerland (7x)
4: Croatia, Georgia, Israel, Slovenia (4x)
3: Azerbaijan, Greece (2x)
2: Cyprus, FYR Macedonia (2x)
1: Armenia, Estonia (2x)

Polish diaspora my ass  -hbbv-


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